Car vs. Train in Midland

[Ponderous]

Looks like the new concrete barriers to prevent people from crossing the tracks when the railroad arms are down are working well. :icon_rolleyes:

RR crossing w/ concrete barrier on Eisenhower:
http://www.ponderous.com/albums/album07/IMG_0213.sized.jpg (http://www.ponderous.com/gallery/album07/IMG_0213)

Whats left of the passenger car:
http://www.ponderous.com/albums/album07/IMG_0218.sized.jpg (http://www.ponderous.com/gallery/album07/IMG_0218)

Accident happened today (March 8, 2007.) Sometime between 7am and 7:45am.

[The Eurasian]

Where's Eisenhower? Also, Odessa or Midland?

[cag]

Where's Eisenhower? Also, Odessa or Midland?



The Eisenhower crossing is the first crossing just east of the Loop 250-BI20 overpass.

[The Eurasian]

The Eisenhower crossing is the first crossing just east of the Loop 250-BI20 overpass.

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Thanks Cag. Vehicles colliding with trains at a railroad intersection like this does not surprise Eurasian. Eurasian submits experimental solutions here at myopenforum. But people and government are indifferent. Result is train to vehicle collisions again and again, and this is repeated all over the United States.

[dngnb8]

When racing trains, it is not whether you win or lose that counts, it is the ties that hurt.

[snooks]

When racing trains, it is not whether you win or lose that counts, it is the ties that hurt.

I like that!! I think people in Stanton need to remember that...lol

[MentalVengeance]

Trains appear to play a very critical part in the process of natrual selection.

[Ponderous]

From COMNEWS email:

TRAIN FATALITY

Midland Police responded to the scene of Eisenhower and Business 20 at approximately 7:22 a.m. on Thursday, March 8, 2007, in reference to a train vehicle accident.

According to witnesses, the victim, 64-year-old Khanh Tran of Midland, was traveling southbound on Eisenhower when he stopped his 2007 Camry at the train tracks with the front end of the vehicle on the tracks. The crossing arms came down as the train approached. Tran was unable to move his vehicle off the tracks before the train struck the driver’s side front end. The force pushed the vehicle west and the rear passenger side struck the crossing signal pole bringing it to the ground.

Tran, the only passenger in the vehicle, was transported to Midland Memorial Hospital where he died a short time later.

The last train vehicle fatality in the City was in 2000 at the intersection of G and Industrial.

[rehtaeh1979]

How sad! Didn't Khan own a restaurant here in Midland. The name sounds familiar.

[StuckInAStrangeDream]

This kind of thing always trips me out.... didn't those arms come down in time for him to jump out of the car?

[rehtaeh1979]

I would think so too. FYI if this ever happens to you, run towards the train not away. But he was kind of old so maybe he didn't realize how close he was to the tracks.:icon_confused:

[ParagonEos]

This is so horrifying and one of my worst nightmares.. I think if something like that would have happened to one of my boys I would literally die of a broken heart. I hate these crossings :icon_cry:

[texican]

All it takes if for people to pay attention to what they are doing. I do not seem to remember this many train/auto wrecks when I was younger and not every crossing had arms.

Maybe we just payed closer attention, did not have boom boom stereos and cell phones.

[texican]

Don't reckon we payed attention now did we? Probably paid attention don't you think?

[Indy]

I would think so too. FYI if this ever happens to you, run towards the train not away. But he was kind of old so maybe he didn't realize how close he was to the tracks.:icon_confused:

WHA????:icon_confused: Towards the train??

And another thing...why was this guy STOPPED on the tracks???

[Leebetter]

WHA????:icon_confused: Towards the train??

And another thing...why was this guy STOPPED on the tracks???

Toward the train... away from the disaster, not into the train. You're supposed to run the opposite direction of the train when you know disaster is inevitable or imminent.

[rehtaeh1979]

We may have to draw her a picture. :icon_mrgreen:

[Indy]

We may have to draw her a picture. :icon_mrgreen:

Probably :p so

[The Eurasian]

WHA????:icon_confused: .......

And another thing...why was this guy STOPPED on the tracks???


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This problem was already solved by eurasian with an experimental railroad crossing where eurasian proposed that the road segment for cars at railroad crossings should not be a hill nor a valley but flat and level with the rairoad track or a plateau, with the top of the plateau level with the railroad track

Each lane that crosses a railroad track can also be going downwards before a vehicle crosses the railroad track AND after the vehicle crosses the railroad track.

THE REASON WHY EURASIAN EXPERIMENTAL WANTS A PLATEAU INSTEAD OF A HILL IS BECAUSE VEHICLE ENGINES HAVE A TENDENCY TO STOP OR LOSE POWER WHEN GOING UP AN INCLINE. EURASIAN ESPECIALLY RECOMMENDS THIS PLATEAU RAILROAD CROSSING IN CASES WHERE THE RAILROAD TRACK IS HIGHER THAN THE SURROUNDING ROADS LIKE THIS RAILROAD CROSSING IN EISENHOWER WHERE THE RAIROAD TRACK IS HIGHER THAN BOTH BUSINESS HIGHWAY 80 AND THE SERVICE ROAD.

[Leebetter]

Indy, here's a diagram of a potential train wreck and where to go. :)

http://bhsupply.com/guest/Lee/train.bmp

[Macadoo]

Good diagram Lee. There may be a very small possibility that if the car on the tracks is hit in the very front or very rear it could be flipped back up the track but in general the momentum of the train is going to carry the stopped car in it's direction of travel down the tracks or push it to one side in that same direction. .

[Leebetter]

Good diagram Lee. There may be a very small possibility that if the car on the tracks is hit in the very front or very rear it could be flipped back up the track but in general the momentum of the train is going to carry the stopped car in it's direction of travel down the tracks or push it to one side in that same direction. .

Thanks, I admit it's not a very good one but it gives the general idea. Also, Mac is correct, good examples! The train tends to carry things along with it, leaving devastation in it's path. Therefore it is wise to "run toward the train" and not with it. I hope we've got this cleared up now, unless someone would like to add some more advice. :p

[The Eurasian]

...why was this guy STOPPED on the tracks???


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Indy, Everybody

Based on a DOT rule for trucks intended to prevent trucks from malfunctioning at railroad crossings, eurasian's opinion is that the car lost power climbing uphill, - causing the engine to conk out on top of the hill where the railroad tracks are located.

[texican]

Part B of your equation, Eurasian, is get out of the damn car!!! This does not require Einstein to figure out.

[Indy]

Indy, here's a diagram of a potential train wreck and where to go. :)

http://bhsupply.com/guest/Lee/train.bmp

Thanks Lee.......I'm a little bit slow at times.:icon_razz:

when BH said runs TOWARDS the train I thought she meant towards the train. Makes more sense seeing it in a picture.

[snooks]

My motto is...LOOK, LISTEN AND LIVE! I have said that repeatedly in the car when my kids are present, hopefully when they are old enough to drive they will remember what Momma said :icon_wink:

[sherlockhomer]

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Indy, Everybody

Based on a DOT rule for trucks intended to prevent trucks from malfunctioning at railroad crossings, eurasian's opinion is that the car lost power climbing uphill, - causing the engine to conk out on top of the hill where the railroad tracks are located.


There is one huge flaw in your opinion. He was driving a brand new car. It didn't konk out and it had NOTHING to do with the grade at the crossing.

[The Eurasian]

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Sherlockhomer

From recent 3/9/07 news at mywesttexas.com by Linsey Bradley, eurasian's opinion is that Mr. Khan Trans car could not get out because in front was a car obeying an octagonal stop sign, at its rear was the railroad crossing bar at a horizontal position to block vehicles, AND ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE WAS THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED CONCRETE TRAFFIC ISLAND PREVENTING THE CAR FROM ESCAPING TO THE LEFT.

EURASIAN EXPERIMENTAL WOULD HAVE ALLOWED MR. KHANH TRAN'S CAR TO ESCAPE BECAUSE EURASIAN'S TRAFFIC ISLAND HAS NO LENGTH BECAUSE IT IS ONLY A POLE ON EACH SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

http://www.myopenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8259

METAL BARRIERS, attention: Gary Saunders
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[jillybean]

as far as I'm concerned....anyone smart would have said "i'm not going to be able to get out of here now that the arms are coming down I need to exit my car and run....who cares what happens to the car." If there were a child inside, that would be the quickest exit of my life from a car. BUT, on a side note...when I come up to the railroad crossing...I dont care if the arms are down or not, I ALWAYS STOP and look both directions before I go across it because I am always concerned of the possibility of malfunction. If there is someone on the other side of the tracks and have the slightest doubt that my car wont fit, I dont go across the tracks, I wait until I can FOR SURE fit on the other side.

[Tony20StewartNascarfan]

I have to cross the tracks EVERY day... sometimes multiple times... because of work. It is very plausible to me how this gentleman got stuck on the tracks. It would be very easy to THINK that you could get across the tracks but get stuck on the track when traffic compels another vehicle to stop. I have seen it happen many times and have had a very near miss ONCE. Luckily, the car ahead saw the situation and disobeyed traffic laws so that I could move. Since then, I have become more conscientious of traffic situations around the tracks.
I don't want an "experimental" or whatever on how to improve things. I know it is complicated. But I really hope that the public becomes aware just how EASY it is to get caught on the tracks. YOu should NEVER EXPECT to get over the tracks and prepare for the worst. I try to remember that every day when I am trying to get to the office on time. NOTHING is worth trying to get over the tracks. Even if it pisses off someone behind me, I wanna make sure I can clear the track before I go across. If you don't believe how much it makes a difference to be aware... just try crossing the tracks several times a day for a month... I guarantee you will see situations that will make your hair stand on end.
<<<<<<<<<<<Stepping down from soap box now.>>>>>>>>>>>

[BERT]

WHA????:icon_confused: Towards the train??

And another thing...why was this guy STOPPED on the tracks???

There might have cars in front of him at that stop sign.

But those polls come down way before the train gets there I don't see why there wasn't time to get out... unless he was handicapped or something.

[Tony20StewartNascarfan]

By the way... Midkiff Rd where it crosses the tracks is the scariest because of how the lights are timed.

[Tony20StewartNascarfan]

There might have cars in front of him at that stop sign.

But those polls come down way before the train gets there I don't see why there wasn't time to get out... unless he was handicapped or something.

But that is what I am saying... From what I have seen, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that he did NOT have time to move.

[The Eurasian]

There might have cars in front of him at that stop sign.

But those polls come down way before the train gets there I don't see why there wasn't time to get out... unless he was handicapped or something.


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Bert, All

In mywesttexas.com 3/9/2007 by Linsey Bradley, it says, "The conductor said the car looked like it was rocking back and forth, but a fireman who saw the wreck said he was backing up and stopped..."

That rocking back and forth as seen by the conductor means Mr. Khan Tran was trying to wiggle out of that trap but he could not because of the concrete divider or barrier that was newly constructed in the middle of the road. That's why, eurasian is saying that if his eurasian experimental barrier of one metal pole was used on each side of the railroad tracks, not only would such eurasian experimental be successful at preventing cars from defeating the crossing arms when at a horizontal position but the eurasian experimental metal pole barrier would also have been successful at allowing Mr. Khanh Trann and car to escape simply by turning the car to the left because there would have been no concrete barrier there to prevent their escape!!!!

The fireman saw the car backing up and stop. In eurasian's opinion, what the fireman saw was the end portion of the rocking motion seen by the conductor. What this means is that perhaps the car conked out which is exactly what another eurasian experimental --- the plateau crossing experimental -- was designed to prevent. Another possibility is that Mr. Khanh Tran finally realized the futility and stopped the car, - and was about to get out of his car. But he could not get out of his car because his seatbelt was tying him to his seat.

[BERT]

See thats the problem with the tracks here... there is either a traffic light or a stop sign on both sides of the tracks at nearly every intersection. During periods of heavy traffic, someone might get caught on the tracks between the car in front and behind. Just remember people... even if you dont see a train, if there isn't any room on the other side of the tracks because there is a car in front of you, don't park on the tracks. stay back and wait for room for your car on the other side to cross the tracks.

[Leebetter]

See thats the problem with the tracks here... there is either a traffic light or a stop sign on both sides of the tracks at nearly every intersection. During periods of heavy traffic, someone might get caught on the tracks between the car in front and behind. Just remember people... even if you dont see a train, if there isn't any room on the other side of the tracks because there is a car in front of you, don't park on the tracks. stay back and wait for room for your car on the other side to cross the tracks.

Oh, so that's what you're supposed to do. Dang, I had it all wrong. I figured you just toss it in 4-wheel drive and push the cars in front of you out of the way. Seems logical to me, although I probably would have to change insurance companies afterwords......j/k

[sherlockhomer]

Only an idiot would sit on the tracks and get hit by a train. BTW I'm pretty sure it is illegal to stop on the tracks like that. If you cannot get yourself out of the situation, then you have no business driving. Like Lee said, if you're in front or behind me and I need to move, I'm going to move you. Quit making excuses and experimentals. DON"T PLAY CHICKEN WITH A TRAIN, IT WILL WIN EVERY TIME.

[The Eurasian]

Only an idiot would sit on the tracks and get hit by a train. BTW I'm pretty sure it is illegal to stop on the tracks like that. If you cannot get yourself out of the situation, then you have no business driving. Like Lee said, if you're in front or behind me and I need to move, I'm going to move you. Quit making excuses and experimentals. DON"T PLAY CHICKEN WITH A TRAIN, IT WILL WIN EVERY TIME.


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Sherlockhomer

In patent law, "inventive" means "non-obvious to those skilled in the art to which the invention pertains."

For example. Authorities wanted to prevent cars from being able to wiggle in between the crossing arms while the crossing arms are going down. What was the obvious, non-inventive solution of the experts and skilled in the art of railroad crossings??? Answer of the experts and skilled in the art of railroad crossings was and is A CONCRETE BARRIER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS!!!! And what was the result of experts' solution at Eisenhower, Thursday, 3/9/2007? Answer is COLLISION OF TRAIN ON CAR AND DEATH OF MR. KHANH TRAN!!!!

But look. If the experts used not their old obvious solutions BUT THE INVENTIVE, NON-OBVIOUS EXPERIMENTAL SOLUTION OF THE EURASIAN. MR. KHANH TRAN COULD HAVE ESCAPED DEATH BECAUSE IN EURASIAN'S EXPERIMENTAL, THE POLE BARRIER HAS NO LENGTH TO PREVENT MR. KHAN TRAN FROM TURNING LEFT AND ESCAPING THAT STRAIT JACKET OF A DEATH!!!

For simplicity, the pole barrier should be located somewhere in the vicinity of the endpoint of the crossing arm when crossing arm in in a horizontal position, -- meaning, THE ENDPOINT OF THE CROSSING ARM WHICH IS WAY UP WHEN ALLOWING CARS TO CROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND WHICH IS DOWN NEAR THE ROAD PAVEMENT WHEN STOPPING VEHICLES FROM CROSSING THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

[The Eurasian]

Does anyone know if this thread, "Car vs Train in Midland" by Ponderous appeared in yesterday's MRT, Monday, March 12, 2007?

[Rin Tin Tin]

The guy that got plowed, isn't his name Kahn Train?

[The Eurasian]

From mywesttexas.com March 9, the spelling I saw was Khanh Tran.

[drillingmonkey65]

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FROM A COMMONERS POINT OF VIEW:

PAY ATTENTION!!

WHAT ARE YOU DOING CREEPING ON THE TRACKS?

Maybe those arms that slowly come down with lights and bells are a relevently new thing. Concrete barriers, OK, very new here.

When ya see the arms with lights and bells coming down, there is a train a comin! Get out of your car and head out. Your insurance will pay the damages. Geez.

This is not rocket science.

[The Eurasian]

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FROM A COMMONERS POINT OF VIEW:

PAY ATTENTION!!

WHAT ARE YOU DOING CREEPING ON THE TRACKS?

Maybe those arms that slowly come down with lights and bells are a relevently new thing. Concrete barriers, OK, very new here.

When ya see the arms with lights and bells coming down, there is a train a comin! Get out of your car and head out. Your insurance will pay the damages. Geez.

This is not rocket science.


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DrillingMonkey

Eurasian's common sense is not common. In fact it is unique.

For example, did people notice that Khanh's car crossed that railroad when the crossing arm was still up???

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Take the case of that new concrete barrier which the MRT months ago said would cost $160,000.00.

On the front of the car is another car blocking the way because it is obeying an octagonal STOP sign.

On the rear of the car is a railroad with a speeding train zooming and ready to slice the car like a gillotine. Farther back is the crossing arm blocking the way.

On the right or passenger side is a ditch and the large mouth of a sharp edged metal drainage culvert.

On the left or driver's side of the car is THE NEW CONCRETE BARRIER.

HOW CAN THE CAR ESCAPE WHEN THE NEW CONCRETE BARRIER IS BLOCKING THE WAY???? SHOULD THE CITY CONTINUE CONSTRUCTING MORE OF THESE CONCRETE BARRIERS AT RAILROAD CROSSINGS???? OR SHOULD THEY START JACKHAMMERING THESE CONCRETE BARRIERS AND USE EURASIAN EXPERIMENTAL SINGLE POLE BARRIER INSTEAD ON EACH SIDE OF THE TRACKS???????

This jackhamering or demolishing or eliminating of these concrete barriers at railroad crossings, these are also eurasian experimentals, correct? Is it right for government and the people of Midland to demolish these concrete barriers without just compensation to eurasian experimental??????

Another eurasian experimental is to make these railroad crossing arms weak so they will snap off, bend, brake, or give way when struck even by a small car. This process can be done for example by cutting the crossarm near the pivot/motor/base and reconnecting the arm back by inserting the cut ends into a piece of plastic pipe. Other equivalents so arms will snap off, bend, brake, give way can also be used.

You've also heard of other eurasian experimentals that will make it possible for cars to escape to the right or passenger side, correct???? Will it be just for the government or the people of Midland to use any of these eurasian experimentals without just compensation to eurasian? Will it be just that you all can earn and make a living simply by flipping hamburgers, drilling, or simply by being elected mayor, councilman and wasting/squandering taxpayers' money --- while an inventor whose experimentals you use receives no just compensation and is reduced to a pauper??? Happy Easter everybody!!!

[jillybean]

HOW CAN THE CAR ESCAPE WHEN THE NEW CONCRETE BARRIER IS BLOCKING THE WAY???? SHOULD THE CITY CONTINUE CONSTRUCTING MORE OF THESE CONCRETE BARRIERS AT RAILROAD CROSSINGS???? OR SHOULD THEY START JACKHAMMERING THESE CONCRETE BARRIERS AND USE EURASIAN EXPERIMENTAL SINGLE POLE BARRIER INSTEAD ON EACH SIDE OF THE TRACKS???????




Dude, its not that hard to understand. About 10 times in this post, someone has said to GET OUT OF THE CAR AND ESCAPE AWAY FROM THE TRAIN. Nobody said to get the car to escape. Who gives a rats butt about the car??

[drillingmonkey65]

Excuswe me while I beat my head against a wall for a moment.

Now, there is nothing truly rocket science about this.

QUOTE:

"Another eurasian experimental is to make these railroad crossing arms weak so they will snap off, bend, brake, or give way when struck even by a small car. This process can be done for example by cutting the crossarm near the pivot/motor/base and reconnecting the arm back by inserting the cut ends into a piece of plastic pipe. Other equivalents so arms will snap off, bend, brake, give way can also be used."


WHAT!!

Are you for real? These arms are there at the crossing to PREVENT motorists from entering that DANGER ZONE in which a train is a comin at high rates of speed. This sounds like something a persinal injury attorney would suggest. Cases slow, eh?

Come on, these are here for the protection of vehicles to notify them that a train is a comin. Not to invite them onto the tracks to get smashed into little bitty pieces.

[The Eurasian]

Dude, its not that hard to understand. About 10 times in this post, someone has said to GET OUT OF THE CAR AND ESCAPE AWAY FROM THE TRAIN. Nobody said to get the car to escape. Who gives a rats butt about the car??


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Jillibean

At 80 MPH, that monstrosity of a train is traveling at 7,040 feet per minute which is equal to 117 feet per second!!!! How many seconds do you think it will take you to release that seatbelt buckle, open the door, jump out of the car, run away from the car so you will be past the bumper? I hope your high heels does not get imbedded/trapped on those wooden ties under the tracks!!!

Now that people know from eurasian that that new concrete barrier prevented the car from escaping, AREN'T YOU GONNA REQUIRE THE TEXAS RAILROAD COMMISSION/TXDOT/ CITY OR WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE TO DEMOLISH/ JACKHAMMER/REMOVE/ELIMINATE THAT CONCRETE BARRIER??? YOU WANT ANOTHER ACCIDENT LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN??? TIME TO USE EURASIAN EXPERIMENTAL ONE POLE PARRIER ON EACH SIDE SO PEOPLE AND CARS CAN ESCAPE TO THE LEFT!!!! TIME TO USE EURASIAN EXPERIMENTAL RAMPS ON THE RIGHT SO PEOPLE/ CARS CAN ESCAPE TO THE RIGHT!!!!! TIME TO USE WEAK, BREAKABLE, SNAPABLE RAILROAD CROSSING ARMS SO PEOPLE/CARS CAN ESCAPE BACKWARDS. TIME TO PUT THE STOP SIGN ON CARS ON THE SERVICE ROAD INSTEAD OF ON CARS THAT JUST CROSSED THE RAILROAD TRACKS --- WHICH ALSO IS A EURASIAN EXPERIMENTAL PROCESS!!!!

[The Eurasian]

Excuswe me while I beat my head against a wall for a moment.

Now, there is nothing truly rocket science about this.

QUOTE:

"Another eurasian experimental is to make these railroad crossing arms weak so they will snap off, bend, brake, or give way when struck even by a small car. This process can be done for example by cutting the crossarm near the pivot/motor/base and reconnecting the arm back by inserting the cut ends into a piece of plastic pipe. Other equivalents so arms will snap off, bend, brake, give way can also be used."


WHAT!!

Are you for real? These arms are there at the crossing to PREVENT motorists from entering that DANGER ZONE in which a train is a comin at high rates of speed. This sounds like something a persinal injury attorney would suggest. Cases slow, eh?

Come on, these are here for the protection of vehicles to notify them that a train is a comin. Not to invite them onto the tracks to get smashed into little bitty pieces.


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In addition to the plastic pipe or equivalent weak pipe, a strip of iron bar or equivalent can be positioned say outside the pipe on the side away from the railroad track and screwed or bolted through the plastic pipe onto each end and near each end of crossing arm where the cut was made, This way, the iron bar will act like a hinge. A car like that of Khan that's moving backwards will cause the arm to bend at that cut portion where the plastic tube is. But a car moving forwards will not bend the crossing arm because the iron bar will not act like a hinge from this direction. What do you think about this eurasian experimental, drilling monkey? I know you must be good at machineries because you drill for a living.

[Rin Tin Tin]

I believe the arms are on a cam type swivel. You can drive thru them and they will already bend and swivel without breaking.
No rocket science here. If trapped with them down, you mearly press on the gas peddle and Wa-La!!
I saw an 18 wheeler go thru the one at Midkiff. The arms swung out as the truck drove through and they slapped agianst the side of the truck.
Sounded like the old days of putting a playing card on your bicycle wheel spokes. Just a lot louder!

[StuckInAStrangeDream]

Im thinking that the "bail out of the car quick" option still sounds best,

[The Eurasian]

I believe the arms are on a cam type swivel. You can drive thru them and they will already bend and swivel without breaking.
No rocket science here. If trapped with them down, you mearly press on the gas peddle and Wa-La!!
I saw an 18 wheeler go thru the one at Midkiff. The arms swung out as the truck drove through and they slapped agianst the side of the truck.
Sounded like the old days of putting a playing card on your bicycle wheel spokes. Just a lot louder!


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Rin Tin Tin

Was the 18 wheeler moving forwards when this was happenning?
Was the 18 wheeler pulling a trailer?

[jillybean]

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Rin Tin Tin

Was the 18 wheeler moving forwards when this was happenning?
Was the 18 wheeler pulling a trailer?



Dont 18 wheelers usually have 18 wheels?? Thus, making it obvious that its pulling a trailer?

[drillingmonkey65]

I am throwin the white towel in on this one. My last thought...

Pay Attention, Stay Alive!!!

I do not think anyone can make this any easier for the public. Watch the arms with the lights and whistles, there's a train a comin!!

If you are stuck on the tracks, BAIL!!!

[raggedyann]

There have always been train accidents in Midland as long as I can remember. Just as many as now. The tracks have always scared me and I respect them. As many has said before, "STOP, LOOK AND LISTEN". :icon_rolleyes:

[The Eurasian]

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In addition to the plastic pipe or equivalent weak pipe, a strip of iron bar or equivalent can be positioned say outside the pipe on the side away from the railroad track and screwed or bolted through the plastic pipe onto each end and near each end of crossing arm where the cut was made, This way, the iron bar will act like a hinge. A car like that of Khan that's moving backwards will cause the arm to bend at that cut portion where the plastic tube is. But a car moving forwards will not bend the crossing arm because the iron bar will not act like a hinge from this direction. What do you think about this eurasian experimental, drilling monkey? I know you must be good at machineries because you drill for a living.


I believe the arms are on a cam type swivel. You can drive thru them and they will already bend and swivel without breaking.
No rocket science here. If trapped with them down, you mearly press on the gas peddle and Wa-La!!
I saw an 18 wheeler go thru the one at Midkiff. The arms swung out as the truck drove through and they slapped agianst the side of the truck.
Sounded like the old days of putting a playing card on your bicycle wheel spokes. Just a lot louder!


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DrillingMonkey

Did you read what Rin Tin Tin posted above? The eurasian experimental of making the railroad crossing arm weak or snappable. IF WE ARE TO BELIEVE WHAT RIN TIN TIN SAYS HE SAW, WHERE THE RAILROAD CROSSING ARM SIMPLY SWIVELED AND SLAPPED THE SIDE OF THE 18 WHEELER, --- THAT SHOULD TELL YOU AND PTHERS THAT, EURASIAN'S EXPERIMENTAL WHERE HE IS PROPOSING A SOLUTION WHERE THE CROSSING ARM IS MADE WEAK NEAR THE PIVOT IS NOT THAT CRAZY. WHY??? ANSWER IS BECAUSE SOMEBODY IN THE PAST, - DID NOT THINK THE IDEA OF MAKING THE ARM WEAK AS NONSENSE. THAT'S WHY HE MADE THE ARM SWIVABLE, GOT A PATENT FOR IT AND INCORPORATED IT IN THAT RAILROAD CROSSING ARM WHICH RIN TIN TIN SAYS HE SAW SWIVEL AND SLAP THE SIDE OR THE EIGHTEEN WHEELER!!!

What this means is that those other eurasian experimentals might also be indeed patentable inventions!!!!

[ParagonEos]

What this means is that those other eurasian experimentals might also be indeed patentable inventions!!!!
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I say patent every crazy or insane idea you can think of. One of them may make you really rich because that's all it takes is one good one!

[Neon E]

The crossing gates are configured to give 70 seconds of warning before a train enters the crossing. There was (according to witnesses) a soda pop truck parked on the other side of the crossing stopped at the stop sign waiting for some east west traffic on industrial street.

The victim was behind him stopped directly over the tracks. When the gates went down, the victim put his car in reverse and backed up a little to the point where he thought he was clear of the tracks. sadly he was not.

The gates are bendable and breakable to allow a vehicle minimum damage should he strike the gates. The RR is constantly repairing broken/bent gates from 18 wheelers racing to beat the gates.

One ironic truth is this: You can't outsmart stupidity. Folks will always find a way to try to do what you are trying to prevent them to do.

[ParagonEos]

One ironic truth is this: You can't outsmart stupidity. Folks will always find a way to try to do what you are trying to prevent them to do.



Can I use this as my signature?

[The Eurasian]

The crossing gates are configured to give 70 seconds of warning before a train enters the crossing. There was (according to witnesses) a soda pop truck parked on the other side of the crossing stopped at the stop sign waiting for some east west traffic on industrial street.

The victim was behind him stopped directly over the tracks. When the gates went down, the victim put his car in reverse and backed up a little to the point where he thought he was clear of the tracks. sadly he was not.

The gates are bendable and breakable to allow a vehicle minimum damage should he strike the gates. The RR is constantly repairing broken/bent gates from 18 wheelers racing to beat the gates.

One ironic truth is this: You can't outsmart stupidity. Folks will always find a way to try to do what you are trying to prevent them to do.


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Neon E

When did you or authorities inform the public that the gates are bendable and breakable?

[sherlockhomer]

I searched and searched for this thread. I heard something very interesting yesterday, from a very reliable source. It seems the guy who bought the Hilton Hotel, doesn't like the sound of the train blowing it's horn. So he got together with Sheriff Gary Painter (doesn't like the noise either) and they found out that if the city made it impossible for a car to cut throught the crossing arms that the train would stop blowing the horn. Didn't they call these buffer zones?

[Leebetter]

I searched and searched for this thread. I heard something very interesting yesterday, from a very reliable source. It seems the guy who bought the Hilton Hotel, doesn't like the sound of the train blowing it's horn. So he got together with Sheriff Gary Painter (doesn't like the noise either) and they found out that if the city made it impossible for a car to cut throught the crossing arms that the train would stop blowing the horn. Didn't they call these buffer zones?

Makes sense Homer... I didn't know Gary Painter was involved but I was told it had something to do with the Hilton Hotel. I figured the guests were the ones complaining about the noise. Personally the noise never bothered me... I actually liked it but whatever. A buffer zone sounds right... I think I read that in the paper.

[The Eurasian]

Why don't Sheriff Painter and this guy from Hilton Hotel come over here at myopenform.com?

[Leebetter]

Why don't Sheriff Painter and this guy from Hilton Hotel come over here at myopenform.com?


Because I'm sure they've got better things or more important things to do.

[blondegirl86]

What?!? There is nothing more important than this!!! You're crazy! :icon_neutral: :icon_biggrin: