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imported_Jumperbones
06-24-2006, 02:14 PM
RealClearPolitics

June 21, 2006
Rep. Murtha: Pennsylvania's Embarrassment
By Jack Kelly

Rep. Jack Murtha (D-Pa), imagines himself to be the scourge of the hawks in the Bush administration. Many journalists do, too, because they keep inviting him to appear on talk shows.

So why were the targets of Mr. Murtha's wrath doubled over with laughter during his appearance last Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press?" Rep. Murtha's newfound fame is a product of his call for immediate withdrawal from Iraq, or in the dishonest way he likes to phrase it, "redeployment" from Iraq.

Host Tim Russert asked Mr. Murtha to respond to a question White House political guru Karl Rove had asked rhetorically in a recent speech.

"My question is, what country would take us?" Mr. Rove asked. "What country would say after the United States cut and run from Iraq, 'Yeah, paint a big target on our back and then you'll cut and run from us?'" "We can go to Okinawa," Rep. Murtha responded. "We can redeploy there almost instantly."

Mr. Russert, mindful of the fact that Okinawa, Japan, is 4,899 miles from Baghdad, offered Mr. Murtha an escape, in case he had misspoken. "But it would be tough to have a timely response from Okinawa," he said. But Rep. Murtha dug himself in deeper. "When I say a timely response, you know, our fighters can fly from Okinawa very quickly," he said.

Mr. Murtha has been recommending redeployment to Okinawa ever since his rebirth as a dove last year, so what he said on "Meet the Press" was no slip of the tongue.

Let us be clear about the Murtha "strategy." It is insane. It would be easier to defend Germany from Chicago; Alaska from Miami, or Hawaii from Pittsburgh than to defend Iraq from Okinawa.

It would take 10-12 hours -- and six refuelings -- for F-16s to fly from Kadena AFB on Okinawa to Baghdad (assuming China and India would grant overflight rights, a dubious assumption). Mr. Murtha may regard this as "very quickly," but the Air Force does not.

As Bugs Bunny would say: "What a maroon!"

Rest here;
Link:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/06/rep_murtha_pennsylvanias_embar.html

imported_Jumperbones
06-24-2006, 02:14 PM
RealClearPolitics

June 21, 2006
Rep. Murtha: Pennsylvania's Embarrassment
By Jack Kelly

Rep. Jack Murtha (D-Pa), imagines himself to be the scourge of the hawks in the Bush administration. Many journalists do, too, because they keep inviting him to appear on talk shows.

So why were the targets of Mr. Murtha's wrath doubled over with laughter during his appearance last Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press?" Rep. Murtha's newfound fame is a product of his call for immediate withdrawal from Iraq, or in the dishonest way he likes to phrase it, "redeployment" from Iraq.

Host Tim Russert asked Mr. Murtha to respond to a question White House political guru Karl Rove had asked rhetorically in a recent speech.

"My question is, what country would take us?" Mr. Rove asked. "What country would say after the United States cut and run from Iraq, 'Yeah, paint a big target on our back and then you'll cut and run from us?'" "We can go to Okinawa," Rep. Murtha responded. "We can redeploy there almost instantly."

Mr. Russert, mindful of the fact that Okinawa, Japan, is 4,899 miles from Baghdad, offered Mr. Murtha an escape, in case he had misspoken. "But it would be tough to have a timely response from Okinawa," he said. But Rep. Murtha dug himself in deeper. "When I say a timely response, you know, our fighters can fly from Okinawa very quickly," he said.

Mr. Murtha has been recommending redeployment to Okinawa ever since his rebirth as a dove last year, so what he said on "Meet the Press" was no slip of the tongue.

Let us be clear about the Murtha "strategy." It is insane. It would be easier to defend Germany from Chicago; Alaska from Miami, or Hawaii from Pittsburgh than to defend Iraq from Okinawa.

It would take 10-12 hours -- and six refuelings -- for F-16s to fly from Kadena AFB on Okinawa to Baghdad (assuming China and India would grant overflight rights, a dubious assumption). Mr. Murtha may regard this as "very quickly," but the Air Force does not.

As Bugs Bunny would say: "What a maroon!"

Rest here;
Link:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/06/rep_murtha_pennsylvanias_embar.html

imported_Kay
06-24-2006, 03:07 PM
That Murtha guy is as big a joke as Shrub is.

Did anyone happen to see Hannity & Colmes last Thurs I think it was,
when Col. North was the guest host? He did a segment where they had
gone into Cong. Murtha's home town to see if the people who elected him
to office still supported and agreed with him.

First they did a run through of about 5 people from different professions
that were randomly picked off the street and asked them what they
thought of their Congressman. Every single one said they thought he was
doing a great job, said they voted for him and thought highly of him.

Then they read some of his recent statements to these same people,
that he'd made in his press conferences. ALL of the people immediately
disagreed with the statements and said they weren't aware that he'd said
things like that. They were in complete disagreement with him.

Just goes to show how important it is to know BEFORE you vote, who you
are putting into office. And, to watch how they vote and what they are saying.
Having an idiot like Murtha or that McKinney winch in office is a
direct result of voter apathy.

imported_Kay
06-24-2006, 03:07 PM
That Murtha guy is as big a joke as Shrub is.

Did anyone happen to see Hannity & Colmes last Thurs I think it was,
when Col. North was the guest host? He did a segment where they had
gone into Cong. Murtha's home town to see if the people who elected him
to office still supported and agreed with him.

First they did a run through of about 5 people from different professions
that were randomly picked off the street and asked them what they
thought of their Congressman. Every single one said they thought he was
doing a great job, said they voted for him and thought highly of him.

Then they read some of his recent statements to these same people,
that he'd made in his press conferences. ALL of the people immediately
disagreed with the statements and said they weren't aware that he'd said
things like that. They were in complete disagreement with him.

Just goes to show how important it is to know BEFORE you vote, who you
are putting into office. And, to watch how they vote and what they are saying.
Having an idiot like Murtha or that McKinney winch in office is a
direct result of voter apathy.

imported_JBird
06-24-2006, 04:54 PM
Good point, K.

I still remember people voting for Clinton who did so because he "looked good". They didn't know the issues, but wanted to be heard (by their vote, I'd guess).

It's ashame that so many people do not care what is going on outside their neck of the woods. :?

Still, one of the great beauties of our nation is the right to have a say in things. :D

imported_JBird
06-24-2006, 04:54 PM
Good point, K.

I still remember people voting for Clinton who did so because he "looked good". They didn't know the issues, but wanted to be heard (by their vote, I'd guess).

It's ashame that so many people do not care what is going on outside their neck of the woods. :?

Still, one of the great beauties of our nation is the right to have a say in things. :D

imported_Jumperbones
06-25-2006, 07:45 AM
Good point, K.

I still remember people voting for Clinton who did so because he "looked good". They didn't know the issues, but wanted to be heard (by their vote, I'd guess).

It's ashame that so many people do not care what is going on outside their neck of the woods. :?

Still, one of the great beauties of our nation is the right to have a say in things. :D

That's why the anti-American liberals are so strong. If people would actually look at the history of the Democratic party they may think twice about voting for these hijackers of the true Democratic idea. People like we have here that support their platform are either ignorant of the facts or have an agenda that suits their own well being. You can't look at the history of the Democratic party since before the Civil War and tell me that they are the party of the people. If you do, you are seriously deluded. A more racist and bigoted group you'll not find in America. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

imported_Jumperbones
06-25-2006, 07:45 AM
Good point, K.

I still remember people voting for Clinton who did so because he "looked good". They didn't know the issues, but wanted to be heard (by their vote, I'd guess).

It's ashame that so many people do not care what is going on outside their neck of the woods. :?

Still, one of the great beauties of our nation is the right to have a say in things. :D

That's why the anti-American liberals are so strong. If people would actually look at the history of the Democratic party they may think twice about voting for these hijackers of the true Democratic idea. People like we have here that support their platform are either ignorant of the facts or have an agenda that suits their own well being. You can't look at the history of the Democratic party since before the Civil War and tell me that they are the party of the people. If you do, you are seriously deluded. A more racist and bigoted group you'll not find in America. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

imported_Jumperbones
06-25-2006, 07:51 AM
Good point, K.

I still remember people voting for Clinton who did so because he "looked good". They didn't know the issues, but wanted to be heard (by their vote, I'd guess).

It's ashame that so many people do not care what is going on outside their neck of the woods. :?

Still, one of the great beauties of our nation is the right to have a say in things. :D

That's why the anti-American liberals are so strong. If people would actually look at the history of the Democratic party they may think twice about voting for these hijackers of the true Democratic idea. People like we have here that support their platform are either ignorant of the facts or have an agenda that suits their own well being. You can't look at the history of the Democratic party since before the Civil War and tell me that they are the party of the people. If you do, you are seriously deluded. A more racist and bigoted group you'll not find in America. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

imported_Jumperbones
06-25-2006, 07:51 AM
Good point, K.

I still remember people voting for Clinton who did so because he "looked good". They didn't know the issues, but wanted to be heard (by their vote, I'd guess).

It's ashame that so many people do not care what is going on outside their neck of the woods. :?

Still, one of the great beauties of our nation is the right to have a say in things. :D

That's why the anti-American liberals are so strong. If people would actually look at the history of the Democratic party they may think twice about voting for these hijackers of the true Democratic idea. People like we have here that support their platform are either ignorant of the facts or have an agenda that suits their own well being. You can't look at the history of the Democratic party since before the Civil War and tell me that they are the party of the people. If you do, you are seriously deluded. A more racist and bigoted group you'll not find in America. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Twinks
06-25-2006, 11:34 AM
Good point, K.

I still remember people voting for Clinton who did so because he "looked good". They didn't know the issues, but wanted to be heard (by their vote, I'd guess).

It's ashame that so many people do not care what is going on outside their neck of the woods. :?

Still, one of the great beauties of our nation is the right to have a say in things. :D

That's why the anti-American liberals are so strong. If people would actually look at the history of the Democratic party they may think twice about voting for these hijackers of the true Democratic idea. People like we have here that support their platform are either ignorant of the facts or have an agenda that suits their own well being. You can't look at the history of the Democratic party since before the Civil War and tell me that they are the party of the people. If you do, you are seriously deluded. A more racist and bigoted group you'll not find in America. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Partisan politics is for people who can't think for themselves. Try thinking outside your dark little box of doom sometime. You might like it in the light.

Twinks
06-25-2006, 11:34 AM
Good point, K.

I still remember people voting for Clinton who did so because he "looked good". They didn't know the issues, but wanted to be heard (by their vote, I'd guess).

It's ashame that so many people do not care what is going on outside their neck of the woods. :?

Still, one of the great beauties of our nation is the right to have a say in things. :D

That's why the anti-American liberals are so strong. If people would actually look at the history of the Democratic party they may think twice about voting for these hijackers of the true Democratic idea. People like we have here that support their platform are either ignorant of the facts or have an agenda that suits their own well being. You can't look at the history of the Democratic party since before the Civil War and tell me that they are the party of the people. If you do, you are seriously deluded. A more racist and bigoted group you'll not find in America. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Partisan politics is for people who can't think for themselves. Try thinking outside your dark little box of doom sometime. You might like it in the light.

imported_Kay
06-25-2006, 12:02 PM
Oh right! And there is nothing "partisan" about you Twinkly.

imported_Kay
06-25-2006, 12:02 PM
Oh right! And there is nothing "partisan" about you Twinkly.

Twinks
06-25-2006, 12:08 PM
Oh right! And there is nothing "partisan" about you Twinkly.

Now yer thinkin!!! Could we get a DING DING DING over here for Kay please??!!

Good girl.

Twinks
06-25-2006, 12:08 PM
Oh right! And there is nothing "partisan" about you Twinkly.

Now yer thinkin!!! Could we get a DING DING DING over here for Kay please??!!

Good girl.

imported_Jumperbones
06-26-2006, 07:50 AM
Oh right! And there is nothing "partisan" about you Twinkly.

Now yer thinkin!!! Could we get a DING DING DING over here for Kay please??!!

Good girl.

And your such a positive person too, oh fencesitter. You and Murtha have a lot in common. Think Bugs Bunny.

imported_Jumperbones
06-26-2006, 07:50 AM
Oh right! And there is nothing "partisan" about you Twinkly.

Now yer thinkin!!! Could we get a DING DING DING over here for Kay please??!!

Good girl.

And your such a positive person too, oh fencesitter. You and Murtha have a lot in common. Think Bugs Bunny.

imported_Jumperbones
06-26-2006, 07:53 AM
Good point, K.

I still remember people voting for Clinton who did so because he "looked good". They didn't know the issues, but wanted to be heard (by their vote, I'd guess).

It's ashame that so many people do not care what is going on outside their neck of the woods. :?

Still, one of the great beauties of our nation is the right to have a say in things. :D

That's why the anti-American liberals are so strong. If people would actually look at the history of the Democratic party they may think twice about voting for these hijackers of the true Democratic idea. People like we have here that support their platform are either ignorant of the facts or have an agenda that suits their own well being. You can't look at the history of the Democratic party since before the Civil War and tell me that they are the party of the people. If you do, you are seriously deluded. A more racist and bigoted group you'll not find in America. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Partisan politics is for people who can't think for themselves. Try thinking outside your dark little box of doom sometime. You might like it in the light.

Absolutely partisan, cause I KNOW I'm right and your wrong oh commie sympathizer.

imported_Jumperbones
06-26-2006, 07:53 AM
Good point, K.

I still remember people voting for Clinton who did so because he "looked good". They didn't know the issues, but wanted to be heard (by their vote, I'd guess).

It's ashame that so many people do not care what is going on outside their neck of the woods. :?

Still, one of the great beauties of our nation is the right to have a say in things. :D

That's why the anti-American liberals are so strong. If people would actually look at the history of the Democratic party they may think twice about voting for these hijackers of the true Democratic idea. People like we have here that support their platform are either ignorant of the facts or have an agenda that suits their own well being. You can't look at the history of the Democratic party since before the Civil War and tell me that they are the party of the people. If you do, you are seriously deluded. A more racist and bigoted group you'll not find in America. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Partisan politics is for people who can't think for themselves. Try thinking outside your dark little box of doom sometime. You might like it in the light.

Absolutely partisan, cause I KNOW I'm right and your wrong oh commie sympathizer.

imported_t1
06-26-2006, 07:55 AM
Pull out of Iraq now, congressman urges

Cover-up of Haditha killings wrong, he says

By Elizabeth Baier
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted June 25 2006

American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran, U.S. Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said to a crowd of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-ctownhall25jun25,0,7119684.story

moonbat

imported_t1
06-26-2006, 07:55 AM
Pull out of Iraq now, congressman urges

Cover-up of Haditha killings wrong, he says

By Elizabeth Baier
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted June 25 2006

American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran, U.S. Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said to a crowd of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-ctownhall25jun25,0,7119684.story

moonbat

imported_Cheech
06-26-2006, 09:07 AM
I remember during the last Presidential election a bunch of the celebrities and musicians were going around and telling everyone to get out and vote. They weren't telling everyone to inform themselves on the issues and then get out and vote they were basically telling them just to get out and vote for Kerry. They were using their celebrity status to persuade the uninformed sheep to get out and vote for their candidate. The right thing to do would be to tell people to inform themselves on the issues and then go out and vote. I remember about that same time the guys from South Park, Trey and Matt, had a counter campaign telling people not to vote. When asked why they were doing this they said most people don't have a clue as to what the hell they are voting for. Their stance was that why would you want a bunch of sheep going to the poles and voting for someone based on their looks or because some celebrity who lives in an ivory tower told them how to vote. They felt that would do more damage to the country then having a low voter turnout. I must say that I agree with them.

imported_Cheech
06-26-2006, 09:07 AM
I remember during the last Presidential election a bunch of the celebrities and musicians were going around and telling everyone to get out and vote. They weren't telling everyone to inform themselves on the issues and then get out and vote they were basically telling them just to get out and vote for Kerry. They were using their celebrity status to persuade the uninformed sheep to get out and vote for their candidate. The right thing to do would be to tell people to inform themselves on the issues and then go out and vote. I remember about that same time the guys from South Park, Trey and Matt, had a counter campaign telling people not to vote. When asked why they were doing this they said most people don't have a clue as to what the hell they are voting for. Their stance was that why would you want a bunch of sheep going to the poles and voting for someone based on their looks or because some celebrity who lives in an ivory tower told them how to vote. They felt that would do more damage to the country then having a low voter turnout. I must say that I agree with them.

imported_Kay
06-26-2006, 09:17 AM
I agree with them too Cheech.
I have a new respect for Southpark.

imported_Kay
06-26-2006, 09:17 AM
I agree with them too Cheech.
I have a new respect for Southpark.