Cultural Marxist 2: Subversion and Perversion of America's Youth

[Jumperbones]

If you're and Educator that seeks Education,......read this.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2320473/posts

[nlinecomputers]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2320473/posts

Your link is messed up. Above should be the correct one.

[Jumperbones]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2320473/posts

Your link is messed up. Above should be the correct one.

Thanks. I've corrected it also.

[Twinks]

[Jumperbones]

Figures

[bigfatfurrytexan]

This certainly is a Tin Hat article, but i like it a lot. JB, bravo for bringing this up. Yes, it is happening. Ever since we had the "liberal" movement in education begin in the 50's and 60's, we have slowly seen the Great America being eroded via our youth. Every single person on this forum is a part of the indoctrination, whether you know it or not. Some of you may have had less of it (due to location, etc), but the national level educational directives are founded on principles devised by Marxists that were the product of "higher education" in the post-WWII cultural revolution that we had.

Great article, JB. More educators need to read and chime in hear (or i will have to drag in a cranky old codger from another forum that i know who will rant and rail on this topic like Eury).

[Twinks]

Back atcha.

Figures

[Jumperbones]

This certainly is a Tin Hat article, but i like it a lot. JB, bravo for bringing this up. Yes, it is happening. Ever since we had the "liberal" movement in education begin in the 50's and 60's, we have slowly seen the Great America being eroded via our youth. Every single person on this forum is a part of the indoctrination, whether you know it or not. Some of you may have had less of it (due to location, etc), but the national level educational directives are founded on principles devised by Marxists that were the product of "higher education" in the post-WWII cultural revolution that we had.

Great article, JB. More educators need to read and chime in hear (or i will have to drag in a cranky old codger from another forum that i know who will rant and rail on this topic like Eury).

Thanks for the intelligent input. I don't feel it's a tin hat article. The truth is hard to take sometimes and there are those with an agenda that will belittle it for their own reasons.

I've felt this way about our Education system for a long time. Sometimes I feel out Educators aren't even aware of what they are doing to our children. They get marching orders from on high and it seems won't question them for fear of being outed to their handlers.

I don't think it's the grunts on the front lines of education, but, the Administrators and directors that set policy who are at fault.

One only has to read through some of the textbooks used in the class room to see the indoctrination that's taking place. Not to mention the curriculums that are used. The three R's have been replace with puff courses, and stress isn't given to the more important subjects.
It's a matter of passing problem students up the chain to rid one's self of the problem.

Student's aren't encouraged from a young age to do the hard work, but to take the easy way out because doing the hard thing isn't cool. Why else would General Studies be the most popular course in today's schools?

I feel for some teachers today, at least those who recognize the problem but feel helpless to change the system. For those who buy into the system and support it, I don't give a tinkers damn.

Sometimes my grammer isn't the best, and my puncuation leaves something to be desired, but then I'm a product of what I rail against.

I want better for my children.

Oh, and don't get me started on the Teachers Unions.

[Twinks]

As someone who actually works in education - and not as an administrator - I find the article completely ridiculous. There are problems with the education system on local, state and federal levels because it is an extension of a diverse and ever-changing society; but to say it's a grand plan for some kind of sinister political indoctrination is beyond crazy.

[Vendetta]

As someone who actually works in education - and not as an administrator - I find the article completely ridiculous. There are problems with the education system on local, state and federal levels because it is an extension of a diverse and ever-changing society; but to say it's a grand plan for some kind of sinister political indoctrination is beyond crazy.

You once said you were an editor while you were playing Grammar & spelling cop not too long ago.

Now you work in the "education" feild so you can comment with an insiders view point.

I wonder what feild of work you will be in next yr?

[Twinks]

I'm both. And that isn't all I do, either. If you have anything meaningful - like a point to add to the discussion on the communist takeover of education -- I'd be happy to discuss it with you. Perhaps you can attempt to test my mettle about my job? That could be fun. For me.

You once said you were an editor while you were playing Grammar & spelling cop not too long ago.

Now you work in the "education" feild so you can comment with an insiders view point.

I wonder what feild of work you will be in next yr?

[Vendetta]

I'm both. And that isn't all I do, either. If you have anything meaningful - like a point to add to the discussion on the communist takeover of education -- I'd be happy to discuss it with you. Perhaps you can attempt to test my mettle about my job? That could be fun. For me.

I just love the way you can be condensending, indignant, & "your off topic" all at the same time.

You sir are a true liberal to the core. But a poor troll.
Allow me to demonstrate proper trolling method.

I see your "work" doesn't keep you busy today so you can respond ASAP.

Eventually, someone in this thread will take your liberal ideals & shred them into confetti & you predictably will get busy with your job & stop posting because you lack the man bumps to just admit you were wrong.

Like in the thread about the professor who was arrested.

There you were preaching to the masses about white cops racing to the scene because a black man was breaking into a home & the color of the suspect was never reported.

That one must of stung.
So much so I noticed your job kept you "busy" for like 3 weeks. LOL!

By the way, were you doing as you expect me to do:

have anything meaningful - like a point to add to the discussion on the communist takeover of education

when you posted this picture?




BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


Now, you have a good weekend stewing about that.
I know you will.

I won't. my weekend starts now & you were just something to keep me entertained while I set-up all my "out of office alerts" Ta-Ta.

[Twinks]

Vendetta, as usual you have no ability to discuss this topic, or any other intelligently, so you try to pick a fight.

Lame.

Yes, the picture sums up my point of view. It is not a troll post. The article is crazy and paranoid. What is your point of view on the subject? Not on me, but the topic? (See, when you only take a position on me and not the topic, you are making a troll post.)

Are you disagreeing with my assertion that the article posted is crazy and paranoid and that readers be advised that they are entering a tin foil hat area when reading it? Why? Below you make several presumptions about my views. If they are to hold water, first, define 1) my ideas in general on this subject, and 2) how they are liberal.

If you want to rehash the Gates/Crowley debate, start a thread, we'll have a go.

Did you mean to type: "You're off topic"? condescending? Still want to troll me about editing?

Trust me when I tell you that nothing "stings" when I enter into a discussion with you.

I just love the way you can be condensending, indignant, & "your off topic" all at the same time.

You sir are a true liberal to the core. But a poor troll.
Allow me to demonstrate proper trolling method.

I see your "work" doesn't keep you busy today so you can respond ASAP.

Eventually, someone in this thread will take your liberal ideals & shred them into confetti & you predictably will get busy with your job & stop posting because you lack the man bumps to just admit you were wrong.

Like in the thread about the professor who was arrested.

There you were preaching to the masses about white cops racing to the scene because a black man was breaking into a home & the color of the suspect was never reported.

That one must of stung.
So much so I noticed your job kept you "busy" for like 3 weeks. LOL!

By the way, were you doing as you expect me to do:



when you posted this picture?




BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


Now, you have a good weekend stewing about that.
I know you will.

I won't. my weekend starts now & you were just something to keep me entertained while I set-up all my "out of office alerts" Ta-Ta.

[bigfatfurrytexan]

Thanks for the intelligent input. I don't feel it's a tin hat article. The truth is hard to take sometimes and there are those with an agenda that will belittle it for their own reasons.

I've felt this way about our Education system for a long time. Sometimes I feel out Educators aren't even aware of what they are doing to our children. They get marching orders from on high and it seems won't question them for fear of being outed to their handlers.

I don't think it's the grunts on the front lines of education, but, the Administrators and directors that set policy who are at fault.

One only has to read through some of the textbooks used in the class room to see the indoctrination that's taking place. Not to mention the curriculums that are used. The three R's have been replace with puff courses, and stress isn't given to the more important subjects.
It's a matter of passing problem students up the chain to rid one's self of the problem.

Student's aren't encouraged from a young age to do the hard work, but to take the easy way out because doing the hard thing isn't cool. Why else would General Studies be the most popular course in today's schools?

I feel for some teachers today, at least those who recognize the problem but feel helpless to change the system. For those who buy into the system and support it, I don't give a tinkers damn.

Sometimes my grammer isn't the best, and my puncuation leaves something to be desired, but then I'm a product of what I rail against.

I want better for my children.

Oh, and don't get me started on the Teachers Unions.

Just remember, when i say "Tin Hat", i don't use it as a slur. I am a "tin-hatter", myself. I just refer to it being conspiracy minded.

I have beliefs that not only include the subject matter in the article you linked, but also would encompass governments on the whole. There are constant attempts at subversion (look at what China tried to do to our food supply a couple years ago, not to mention the constant cyber attacks they level at us).

The real kicker to me is that it isn't just the "Communist" tendencies promoted, but goes even deeper. We have created a system where we try to force a student into a cookie cutter and then when they fail to fit the cookie cutter, we just pass them up the chain. Standardized testing, for example, would represent this attempt. I address this in point three below, but just passing students for the sake of passing them creates horrible work ethic and a sense of entitlement (which you touched on).

The whole "No child left behind" approached it from the wrong angle. The thought should have been more like "Teach all children to excel" but instead became "Dumb down the system so that everyone can participate".

In so doing there are 3 key things (from my perspective) that are missing:

1. we do not teach students HOW to learn. We spend fortunes teaching instructors on how to teach, but nothing is done to really teach a child how to learn.

2. multi-modal teaching is often left unaccounted for. Funding limitations may keep us from being able to present material in more than just 1 way (lecture material is cheap, but lab material is expensive). Add to this the fact that children mature differently, and there are stark differences between the way a child learner will learn versus the adult learner (the adult learner really requires more multi-modal learning models).

3. we do not nurture the desire for the reward of the feeling of a job well done. You touched on it with kids taking coursework in "general education" (or, in college, Liberal Arts majors), but i think that it is indicative of kids not willing to work hard to achieve because of a lack of WIIFM (Whats In It For Me) being address (WIIFM is a key component of the adult learning model). You can see this complete lack of self driven motivation in the workforce. I have employed thousands in my life and can honestly say that there is a marked difference in quality of labor, especially in areas where schools are not as good as others.

Once again, a very well reasoned post JB. Good job, and if you get started on Teachers Unions, please let me know.

[MAVERICK]

good post furryfellow! we are multi-cultural ... we are not one dimensional ... and cookie cutter education is absurd .... all kids are not alike in learning ability and maturity as you say. testing for aptitude and ability needs to begin early in life ... broaden the learning field instead throwing every child into the same funnel ..... of course everything can't be blamed on the school system ... parents need to step up too.